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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Привет Отец Г.,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Если бы я знала украинский язык, то потом я бы писать тебе на украинский.  Я рада что, этот post ободрял тебя!  Но у меня вопрос, нет слова по-украинский/русский за &quot;out-ness?&quot;  :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Во Христе,&lt;br/&gt;Синтия&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;p.s. Можно написать твоя фамилия по-русский, чтобы я правильно понять как эта произносить?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Привет Отец Г.,</p>
<p>Если бы я знала украинский язык, то потом я бы писать тебе на украинский.  Я рада что, этот post ободрял тебя!  Но у меня вопрос, нет слова по-украинский/русский за &#8220;out-ness?&#8221;  :)</p>
<p>Во Христе,<br />Синтия</p>
<p>p.s. Можно написать твоя фамилия по-русский, чтобы я правильно понять как эта произносить?</p>
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		<title>By: Otets Hryhorij</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otets Hryhorij</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Привет!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Спасибо за вашу аналогию “playing out” в джазе с потрясающем провозглашением Воплощения. Это помогло мне контекстуализировать “out-ness” Католического “плотского” понимания Евхаристии в “плотское” учение о Церкви как Тела Христового, с Видимым Главой, которое одушевляется Святым Духом. Да, “джазность” Католицизма может шокировать!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;P.S. This was for the Russophiles in your audience. I myself prefer Ukrainian amongst the slavic languages, because of its sweet melodic sound. As Italian is to the romantic languages, so Ukrainain is to the slavic. Відтепер напишу тобі по-українськи!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Привет!</p>
<p>Спасибо за вашу аналогию “playing out” в джазе с потрясающем провозглашением Воплощения. Это помогло мне контекстуализировать “out-ness” Католического “плотского” понимания Евхаристии в “плотское” учение о Церкви как Тела Христового, с Видимым Главой, которое одушевляется Святым Духом. Да, “джазность” Католицизма может шокировать!</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>P.S. This was for the Russophiles in your audience. I myself prefer Ukrainian amongst the slavic languages, because of its sweet melodic sound. As Italian is to the romantic languages, so Ukrainain is to the slavic. Відтепер напишу тобі по-українськи!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Привет Крис,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Я тоже рада в том, что сушествует еще руские-говаращие,философические-читающие богасловские людые в blogosphere!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers,&lt;br/&gt;Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Привет Крис,</p>
<p>Я тоже рада в том, что сушествует еще руские-говаращие,философические-читающие богасловские людые в blogosphere!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: Chris T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I stopped by because of Ben&#039;s endorsement, and I&#039;m glad to see another Russian-speaking, philosophy-reading theologian in the blogosphere.  :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you haven&#039;t, you should visit the South sometime--I studied in Krasnodar and loved it.  Moscow was definitely my second-favorite city, though (I see from your CV you studied there); I liked it much better than Piter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I stopped by because of Ben&#8217;s endorsement, and I&#8217;m glad to see another Russian-speaking, philosophy-reading theologian in the blogosphere.  :-)</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t, you should visit the South sometime&#8211;I studied in Krasnodar and loved it.  Moscow was definitely my second-favorite city, though (I see from your CV you studied there); I liked it much better than Piter.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2006/02/16/the-%e2%80%9cout-ness%e2%80%9d-of-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%bf-%ce%bb%ce%bf%ce%b3%ce%bf%cf%82-%cf%83%ce%b1%cf%81%ce%b6-%ce%b5%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%bd%ce%b5%cf%84%ce%bf-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%ba/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks T.B.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I read Ridderbos&#039; book on Paul at a course at Westminster (with Dr. Richard Gaffin)--an excellent book.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nice to hear that there are so many jazz musicians out there!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers,&lt;br/&gt;Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks T.B.</p>
<p>I read Ridderbos&#8217; book on Paul at a course at Westminster (with Dr. Richard Gaffin)&#8211;an excellent book.  </p>
<p>Nice to hear that there are so many jazz musicians out there!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: T.B. Vick</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.B. Vick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! Also, nice examples of &quot;playing-out&quot; which helped to bring what Ridderbos was saying home to roost with me (also a musician/guitar and trumpet player and lover of Jazz).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have not read Ridderbos&#039; &lt;i&gt;Gospel of John&lt;/i&gt; however, his work &lt;i&gt;Paul: An Outline of His Theology&lt;/i&gt; is a great text!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Also, nice examples of &#8220;playing-out&#8221; which helped to bring what Ridderbos was saying home to roost with me (also a musician/guitar and trumpet player and lover of Jazz).</p>
<p>I have not read Ridderbos&#8217; <i>Gospel of John</i> however, his work <i>Paul: An Outline of His Theology</i> is a great text!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2006/02/16/the-%e2%80%9cout-ness%e2%80%9d-of-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%bf-%ce%bb%ce%bf%ce%b3%ce%bf%cf%82-%cf%83%ce%b1%cf%81%ce%b6-%ce%b5%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%bd%ce%b5%cf%84%ce%bf-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%ba/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ben.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve visited your blog before and meant to add it to my &quot;links of interest.&quot;  Your post helped me to recall how much I liked your blog, and I&#039;ve now added you to my list. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers,&lt;br/&gt;Cynthia&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;p.s. I wake up looking forward to reading the Ridderbos commentary. As I post more, I do hope that you will interact since you&#039;ve read it and are familiar with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ben.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve visited your blog before and meant to add it to my &#8220;links of interest.&#8221;  Your post helped me to recall how much I liked your blog, and I&#8217;ve now added you to my list. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Cynthia</p>
<p>p.s. I wake up looking forward to reading the Ridderbos commentary. As I post more, I do hope that you will interact since you&#8217;ve read it and are familiar with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Myers</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2006/02/16/the-%e2%80%9cout-ness%e2%80%9d-of-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%bf-%ce%bb%ce%bf%ce%b3%ce%bf%cf%82-%cf%83%ce%b1%cf%81%ce%b6-%ce%b5%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%bd%ce%b5%cf%84%ce%bf-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%ba/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. I like the Ridderbos commentary too, especially its sensitivity to the narrative. I have found it very valuable for preaching as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I like the Ridderbos commentary too, especially its sensitivity to the narrative. I have found it very valuable for preaching as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2006/02/16/the-%e2%80%9cout-ness%e2%80%9d-of-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%bf-%ce%bb%ce%bf%ce%b3%ce%bf%cf%82-%cf%83%ce%b1%cf%81%ce%b6-%ce%b5%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%bd%ce%b5%cf%84%ce%bf-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%ba/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William : ),&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good points. I particularly like what you said as to perspective:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;So while that is definitely &#039;out&#039; from our Fallen perspective, it is very &#039;in&#039; of course when we think of our created purpose as human beings - to know and reflect our Father. And so we come full-circle again.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;С любовью,&lt;br/&gt;Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William : ),</p>
<p>Good points. I particularly like what you said as to perspective:</p>
<p>&#8220;So while that is definitely &#8216;out&#8217; from our Fallen perspective, it is very &#8216;in&#8217; of course when we think of our created purpose as human beings &#8211; to know and reflect our Father. And so we come full-circle again.&#8221; </p>
<p>С любовью,<br />Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: W.Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>W.Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your &quot;out&quot; is in many ways very &quot;in&quot; in a kind of circular way that is only accomplished when the infinite personal God is in view.  Let me explain what I mean.  The pericope that you are considering begins and ends with the same subject (kind of an Alpha-Omega theology of sorts).  However, in playing &quot;out&quot; as it were, John&#039;s circle reveals to us a divine and eternal purpose that even though no one has ever seen God (Θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε), the Logos comes not only to tabernacle with us &quot;to play out&quot; as it were; but also to explain, reveal or exegete the Father (ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο) to us.  So while that is definitely &quot;out&quot; from our Fallen perspective, it is very &quot;in&quot; of course when we think of our created purpose as human beings - to know and reflect our Father.  And so we come full-circle again. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Forgive me if that sounds a little convoluted.  I am also struck at how rich John&#039;s gospel is en lieu of your reflections and consequently am likely trying to get my head around things it cannot ultimately grasp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia,</p>
<p>Your &#8220;out&#8221; is in many ways very &#8220;in&#8221; in a kind of circular way that is only accomplished when the infinite personal God is in view.  Let me explain what I mean.  The pericope that you are considering begins and ends with the same subject (kind of an Alpha-Omega theology of sorts).  However, in playing &#8220;out&#8221; as it were, John&#8217;s circle reveals to us a divine and eternal purpose that even though no one has ever seen God (Θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε), the Logos comes not only to tabernacle with us &#8220;to play out&#8221; as it were; but also to explain, reveal or exegete the Father (ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο) to us.  So while that is definitely &#8220;out&#8221; from our Fallen perspective, it is very &#8220;in&#8221; of course when we think of our created purpose as human beings &#8211; to know and reflect our Father.  And so we come full-circle again. </p>
<p>Forgive me if that sounds a little convoluted.  I am also struck at how rich John&#8217;s gospel is en lieu of your reflections and consequently am likely trying to get my head around things it cannot ultimately grasp.</p>
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