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	<title>Comments on: Upcoming Conference: &quot;The True, The Good, and The Beautiful&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clay,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I haven&#039;t read the book yet, but I did pick up a copy at a used book sale not long ago.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, since you are familiar with Rookmaaker and enjoy &quot;stories&quot; as I do, I thought that I&#039;d pass on this link where Dr. Edgar tells a bit of his story in a recent article review relating to Rookemaaker&#039;s works.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.christianitytoday.com/&lt;br/&gt;bc/2006/001/15.12.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Best, &lt;br/&gt;Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clay,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the book yet, but I did pick up a copy at a used book sale not long ago.  </p>
<p>By the way, since you are familiar with Rookmaaker and enjoy &#8220;stories&#8221; as I do, I thought that I&#8217;d pass on this link where Dr. Edgar tells a bit of his story in a recent article review relating to Rookemaaker&#8217;s works.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianitytoday.com/</a><br />bc/2006/001/15.12.html</p>
<p>Best, <br />Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: C. Stirling Bartholomew</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Stirling Bartholomew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of reformed theology and the arts have any of you read  Hans Rookmaaker&#039;s Modern Art and the Death of A Culture (1970)? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here is an excerpt from a work in progress called &quot;Mentors&quot; which will remain in progress for ever:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Date late summer 1970, friends and colleagues take a trip from Seattle to Bellingham (160miles) to hear Hans Rookmaaker:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The group:&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;My close friend and colleague Ann Baramore was working on her MA in English lit, writing a critique of the &quot;New Criticism&quot; and a defense of author (ala E.D. Hirsch). Ann&#039;s best friend was  Naomi Collins (headed for a Phd in art History) who was engaged to Rodger (taught philosophy at MIT), Rick J. was headed for a Pepperedine PhD in Psychology, Darrel G. for a Phd in Music History, Dave Hastings (artist, M.Div Denver Seminary), Steve Graham was just back from a year at L&#039;Abri  (F.Schaeffer) and touring Europe and the middle east.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;... we packed up some sandwiches and beer and drove up to Bellingham to hear and address by H. Rookmaaker (Art Historian).  We had our picnic on Lake Whatcom before the lecture. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After Rookmaaker finished speaking and opened up for questions Naomi Collins (art history guru) remained silent which I found totally amazing, she wasn&#039;t the silent type, turned out she was just remaining aloof. I asked him a pointed one about the rock opera &quot;Tommy&quot; by The Who. How can a deaf dumb and blind boy be saved? The issue was the efficacy of mystical encounters which by-pass the spoken and written WORD. Rookmaker instantly understood where I was going and reacted with an angry dogmatic pronouncement that mystical encounters are not efficacious for salvation. I don&#039;t remember anyone else from our group asking a question. We were almost the entire audience, not much interest in art history among evangelicals in 1970. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We had long discussions of Rookmaaker over the next year or two.    Dave Hastings (artist) borrowed my copy of Modern Art and the Death of A Culture and Steve Graham&#039;s dog  got a hold of it and chewed it up. We discovered that the book was out of print for some reason and couldn&#039;t find another copy. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;another story from Clay, who likes to tell stories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of reformed theology and the arts have any of you read  Hans Rookmaaker&#8217;s Modern Art and the Death of A Culture (1970)? </p>
<p>Here is an excerpt from a work in progress called &#8220;Mentors&#8221; which will remain in progress for ever:</p>
<p>Date late summer 1970, friends and colleagues take a trip from Seattle to Bellingham (160miles) to hear Hans Rookmaaker:</p>
<p>The group:</p>
<p>My close friend and colleague Ann Baramore was working on her MA in English lit, writing a critique of the &#8220;New Criticism&#8221; and a defense of author (ala E.D. Hirsch). Ann&#8217;s best friend was  Naomi Collins (headed for a Phd in art History) who was engaged to Rodger (taught philosophy at MIT), Rick J. was headed for a Pepperedine PhD in Psychology, Darrel G. for a Phd in Music History, Dave Hastings (artist, M.Div Denver Seminary), Steve Graham was just back from a year at L&#8217;Abri  (F.Schaeffer) and touring Europe and the middle east.</p>
<p>&#8230; we packed up some sandwiches and beer and drove up to Bellingham to hear and address by H. Rookmaaker (Art Historian).  We had our picnic on Lake Whatcom before the lecture. </p>
<p>After Rookmaaker finished speaking and opened up for questions Naomi Collins (art history guru) remained silent which I found totally amazing, she wasn&#8217;t the silent type, turned out she was just remaining aloof. I asked him a pointed one about the rock opera &#8220;Tommy&#8221; by The Who. How can a deaf dumb and blind boy be saved? The issue was the efficacy of mystical encounters which by-pass the spoken and written WORD. Rookmaker instantly understood where I was going and reacted with an angry dogmatic pronouncement that mystical encounters are not efficacious for salvation. I don&#8217;t remember anyone else from our group asking a question. We were almost the entire audience, not much interest in art history among evangelicals in 1970. </p>
<p>We had long discussions of Rookmaaker over the next year or two.    Dave Hastings (artist) borrowed my copy of Modern Art and the Death of A Culture and Steve Graham&#8217;s dog  got a hold of it and chewed it up. We discovered that the book was out of print for some reason and couldn&#8217;t find another copy. </p>
<p>another story from Clay, who likes to tell stories</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2006/02/23/upcoming-conference-the-true-the-good-and-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It will be great to see Dr. Edgar.  I am not presenting (however several UD students are presenting papers), and unfortunately will only be able to attend Dr. Edgar&#039;s Friday lectures--but that&#039;s at least something!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;FYI:  The weather in Texas has been cold and rainy too--so I&#039;m pining away as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hi Mike,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is sortof ironic isn&#039;t it:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>It will be great to see Dr. Edgar.  I am not presenting (however several UD students are presenting papers), and unfortunately will only be able to attend Dr. Edgar&#8217;s Friday lectures&#8211;but that&#8217;s at least something!</p>
<p>FYI:  The weather in Texas has been cold and rainy too&#8211;so I&#8217;m pining away as well.</p>
<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>It is sortof ironic isn&#8217;t it:)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Vendsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Vendsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony of this is just sickening....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony of this is just sickening&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Robinson</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2006/02/23/upcoming-conference-the-true-the-good-and-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO...this was the event in texas that Dr. Edgar raced out of ethics class for today....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cynthia, Are you presenting and/or participating in the conference?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It looks like a lot of fun!&lt;br/&gt;-a pining aesthetic intellectual soul here in cold wet Philly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO&#8230;this was the event in texas that Dr. Edgar raced out of ethics class for today&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cynthia, Are you presenting and/or participating in the conference?</p>
<p>It looks like a lot of fun!<br />-a pining aesthetic intellectual soul here in cold wet Philly</p>
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