Comments on: What is Anglicanism? http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/ Non intratur in veritatem nisi per caritatem. St. Augustine Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:32:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: An Anglican Essentials List? The beginnings of a Catholic Anglican Manifesto at The Land of Unlikeness http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-3497 An Anglican Essentials List? The beginnings of a Catholic Anglican Manifesto at The Land of Unlikeness Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:18:44 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-3497 [...] provided a counter piece to, thank you very much!), I wrote about it here, alluded to it here, and argued about it at Per Caritatem. Orombi lodges the essence of Anglicanism in the Scriptures and the Martyrs. I pointed out then [...] [...] provided a counter piece to, thank you very much!), I wrote about it here, alluded to it here, and argued about it at Per Caritatem. Orombi lodges the essence of Anglicanism in the Scriptures and the Martyrs. I pointed out then [...]

]]> By: Ben Doherty http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1346 Ben Doherty Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:36:48 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1346 Who are we? What exactly is Anglicanism's brilliance? Where is the center of gravity? Where does it stand in relation to the whole church. I have never come upon Christian believers of any sort who answers these questions more clearly than the Abp Orombi's evangelical simplicity, earnstness, and purity of heart that the gospel asks of us. The Apb represents the antiquity and nobility of the word evangelical. The U.S.'s (and indeed the northern hemisphere in general) brand of evangelicanism has become a bit wobbly and has too many meanings - anyone who claimed to be born again fell into that category. The American press loves to use the word as code for middle-class religion. Historically, it simply referred to the gospel. The evangelicanism that Abp Orombi speaks of, I think, is not necessarily the milieu of listings from Billy Graham to Dallas Theological Seminaries, but rather in his own words: "The legacy of the East African Revival is its strong emphasis on the need for a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. This emphasis is not unique to Uganda; it is a part of historic Anglicanism, especially in its Reformation heritage and the evangelical tradition. I long for the day when the global reputation of Anglicans is our insistence on a relationship with Jesus Christ that is characterized by personal experience and repentance, and shared through testimonies. “Oh, those Anglicans! How they always talk about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ!”' Who are we? What exactly is Anglicanism’s brilliance? Where is the center of gravity? Where does it stand in relation to the whole church. I have never come upon Christian believers of any sort who answers these questions more clearly than the Abp Orombi’s evangelical simplicity, earnstness, and purity of heart that the gospel asks of us. The Apb represents the antiquity and nobility of the word evangelical. The U.S.’s (and indeed the northern hemisphere in general) brand of evangelicanism has become a bit wobbly and has too many meanings – anyone who claimed to be born again fell into that category. The American press loves to use the word as code for middle-class religion. Historically, it simply referred to the gospel. The evangelicanism that Abp Orombi speaks of, I think, is not necessarily the milieu of listings from Billy Graham to Dallas Theological Seminaries, but rather in his own words:

“The legacy of the East African Revival is its strong emphasis on the need for a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. This emphasis is not unique to Uganda; it is a part of historic Anglicanism, especially in its Reformation heritage and the evangelical tradition. I long for the day when the global reputation of Anglicans is our insistence on a relationship with Jesus Christ that is characterized by personal experience and repentance, and shared through testimonies. “Oh, those Anglicans! How they always talk about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ!”’

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1336 Cynthia R. Nielsen Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:22:13 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1336 Thanks, Patrick--I look forward to reading it hopefully this weekend. Best wishes, Cynthia Thanks, Patrick–I look forward to reading it hopefully this weekend.

Best wishes,
Cynthia

]]> By: Patrick C. http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1332 Patrick C. Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:21:46 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1332 Dear Cynthia, You may be interested in this article by Joan Chittister, which well describes the dilemmas of churches struggling with change. No solutions here, but some good formulations of the difficulty of handling the process of testing the spirits in today's culture. http://ncrcafe.org/node/1336 [this is just food for your reflections, so feel free not to post this. If the link above doesn't work, the article has been excerpted on various Episcopal blogs] Patrick Dear Cynthia,
You may be interested in this article by Joan Chittister, which well describes the dilemmas of churches struggling with change. No solutions here, but some good formulations of the difficulty of handling the process of testing the spirits in today’s culture.
http://ncrcafe.org/node/1336
[this is just food for your reflections, so feel free not to post this. If the link above doesn't work, the article has been excerpted on various Episcopal blogs]
Patrick

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1330 Cynthia R. Nielsen Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:07:13 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1330 Thanks, Fr. Kimel, for your comment--you bring an element to this discussion that was hitherto lacking. Best wishes, Cynthia Thanks, Fr. Kimel, for your comment–you bring an element to this discussion that was hitherto lacking.

Best wishes,
Cynthia

]]> By: Fr Alvin Kimel http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1328 Fr Alvin Kimel Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:18:21 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1328 As a former Episcopal priest, I found Bishop Orombi's article inspiring. Here is the evangelical wing of Anglicanism at its best and most powerful. When confronted with men and women who are willing to lay down their lives for the Lord, all I can do is silently, and perhaps not so silently, give praise to God. I am humbled. I know that my faith has never burned so brightly--not even close. I know that Bishop Orombi and I are probably disagree radically on sacraments and ecclesiology, but I honor the man and his witness. May the Lord mightily bless his work. As a former Episcopal priest, I found Bishop Orombi’s article inspiring. Here is the evangelical wing of Anglicanism at its best and most powerful. When confronted with men and women who are willing to lay down their lives for the Lord, all I can do is silently, and perhaps not so silently, give praise to God. I am humbled. I know that my faith has never burned so brightly–not even close. I know that Bishop Orombi and I are probably disagree radically on sacraments and ecclesiology, but I honor the man and his witness. May the Lord mightily bless his work.

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1322 Cynthia R. Nielsen Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:36:49 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1322 <p>Hi Patrick,</p> <p> I checked my spam "bin" and found your comment and have posted it. Sorry about that!</p> <p>Best wishes,<br /> Cynthia</p> <p>p.s. Patrick, thank you again for your follow up comment. Please do not take my non-response as my being not interested in your comment--you raise additional points for me to think about, and I greatly appreciate that. I plan to do a follow up post soon, and I hope that you (and the others) will again join the discussion.</p> Hi Patrick,

I checked my spam “bin” and found your comment and have posted it. Sorry about that!

Best wishes,
Cynthia

p.s. Patrick, thank you again for your follow up comment. Please do not take my non-response as my being not interested in your comment–you raise additional points for me to think about, and I greatly appreciate that. I plan to do a follow up post soon, and I hope that you (and the others) will again join the discussion.

]]> By: Patrick C. http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 Patrick C. Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:33:54 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1321 Cynthia, Yesterday I submitted a response to yours--did it not get through? Patrick Cynthia,
Yesterday I submitted a response to yours–did it not get through? Patrick

]]> By: millinerd http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1320 millinerd Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:02:58 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1320 Let me be clear: I want to agree with you. I'm delighted to be proved wrong on any forecast of ecumenical breakdown, just like I hope the story an Orthodox friend of mine told me of a group of Anglicans being recently asked to leave Mt. Athos isn't true. But I don't think it's a Neuhausian conspiracy to say that Orthodox and Catholic ecclesiology will have some difficulty accommodating female bishops. Witness the frosty response of <a href="http://www.fulcrum-anglican.org.uk/news/2006/20060721kasper.cfm?doc=126" rel="nofollow">N.T. Wright</a> to Cardinal Kaspar's call to put on the brakes in regard to the issue that is of much more significance than any current controversy. Even evangelical heels seem to be dug. Let me be clear: I want to agree with you. I’m delighted to be proved wrong on any forecast of ecumenical breakdown, just like I hope the story an Orthodox friend of mine told me of a group of Anglicans being recently asked to leave Mt. Athos isn’t true.

But I don’t think it’s a Neuhausian conspiracy to say that Orthodox and Catholic ecclesiology will have some difficulty accommodating female bishops. Witness the frosty response of N.T. Wright to Cardinal Kaspar’s call to put on the brakes in regard to the issue that is of much more significance than any current controversy. Even evangelical heels seem to be dug.

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/comment-page-1/#comment-1319 Cynthia R. Nielsen Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:50:08 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/2007/09/14/what-is-anglicanism/#comment-1319 Hi Dan, Thanks for linking the IARCCUM document. In my albeit brief perusal of it, I was very encouraged by the continued dialogue between Anglicans and Roman Catholics (which seems to flesh out what is written in <em>Unitatis Redintegratio</em>. I was also very encouraged to learn that the Anglican Church sought out assistance from the RCC with regard to the 2004 Windsor Report. Again thanks to all who have contributed comments and kept this conversation "live." Best wishes, Cynthia Hi Dan,

Thanks for linking the IARCCUM document. In my albeit brief perusal of it, I was very encouraged by the continued dialogue between Anglicans and Roman Catholics (which seems to flesh out what is written in Unitatis Redintegratio. I was also very encouraged to learn that the Anglican Church sought out assistance from the RCC with regard to the 2004 Windsor Report.

Again thanks to all who have contributed comments and kept this conversation “live.”

Best wishes,
Cynthia

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