Comments on: Part I: Paul and Slavery: Submit, Subvert or Something in Between? http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/ Non intratur in veritatem nisi per caritatem. St. Augustine Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:32:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4429 Cynthia R. Nielsen Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:18:17 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4429 Hi Tony, Thanks for joining the conversation! I welcome any comments/criticisms you have time to offer. Best wishes, Cynthia Hi Tony,

Thanks for joining the conversation! I welcome any comments/criticisms you have time to offer.

Best wishes,
Cynthia

]]> By: Tony Stiff http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4426 Tony Stiff Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:05:13 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4426 Cynthia this looks to be a great series. I read all three parts tonight thanks for the link to it :) I especially appreciated how you pointed out that Christian commentators have unfortunately argued for the institution of slavery in the Greco-Roman world on socio-economic grounds instead of confronting it head on. Interested to see where you take this series... If our worldly goods weren't packed away in a storage facility I'd walk through the passage in Fee, Barrett, Bruce, Thiselton, Morris, and more to see how they addressed it. Blessings, Tony PS This was a very provocative rhetorical question, "Should we therefore interpret Jesus’s primary focus on the Jews during his earthly ministry and his apparent disinterest in the Gentiles, as a moral failing on Jesus’s part or perhaps evidence of an overall lack of love and concern for Gentiles?" Cynthia this looks to be a great series. I read all three parts tonight thanks for the link to it :)

I especially appreciated how you pointed out that Christian commentators have unfortunately argued for the institution of slavery in the Greco-Roman world on socio-economic grounds instead of confronting it head on. Interested to see where you take this series…

If our worldly goods weren’t packed away in a storage facility I’d walk through the passage in Fee, Barrett, Bruce, Thiselton, Morris, and more to see how they addressed it. Blessings, Tony

PS This was a very provocative rhetorical question, “Should we therefore interpret Jesus’s primary focus on the Jews during his earthly ministry and his apparent disinterest in the Gentiles, as a moral failing on Jesus’s part or perhaps evidence of an overall lack of love and concern for Gentiles?”

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4397 Cynthia R. Nielsen Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:00:05 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4397 Hi CJ, Thanks! JD, I agree that Paul frequently employs the metaphorical use of all Christians are "slaves of Christ." However, you'll have to stay tuned to see whether we agree on the other part of your comment. I'll leave my comment ambiguous for now : ) Best, Cynthia Hi CJ,

Thanks!

JD,

I agree that Paul frequently employs the metaphorical use of all Christians are “slaves of Christ.” However, you’ll have to stay tuned to see whether we agree on the other part of your comment. I’ll leave my comment ambiguous for now : )

Best,
Cynthia

]]> By: Celucien Joseph http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4394 Celucien Joseph Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:05:22 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4394 I'm also looking forward to this series. I’m also looking forward to this series.

]]> By: JD http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4391 JD Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:31:32 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4391 I was having a discussion with a medieval historian friend of mine not too long about the question of slavery and the church. She shared that the medieval Roman Catholic church's attitude toward slavery functioned on two levels: (1) the slave of Christ level, and (2) the slave of another person level. Apparently the view was that all Christians are first and foremost responsible to Christ as his servants, but consequently that slaves and slave owners must occupy their roles in manners that honor Christ's expectations of his servants to one another. As a model, it strikes me as profoundly Pauline and, for that matter, Kuyperian. For whatever that's worth. I was having a discussion with a medieval historian friend of mine not too long about the question of slavery and the church. She shared that the medieval Roman Catholic church’s attitude toward slavery functioned on two levels: (1) the slave of Christ level, and (2) the slave of another person level. Apparently the view was that all Christians are first and foremost responsible to Christ as his servants, but consequently that slaves and slave owners must occupy their roles in manners that honor Christ’s expectations of his servants to one another. As a model, it strikes me as profoundly Pauline and, for that matter, Kuyperian. For whatever that’s worth.

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4388 Cynthia R. Nielsen Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:23:50 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4388 Thanks, Jason. I really enjoyed working on this subject. I hope that it generates good discussion. Thanks, Jason. I really enjoyed working on this subject. I hope that it generates good discussion.

]]> By: Jason Ingalls http://percaritatem.com/2009/02/28/part-i-paul-and-slavery-submit-subvert-or-something-in-between/comment-page-1/#comment-4387 Jason Ingalls Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:18:43 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1012#comment-4387 I'm looking forward to the rest of this series. I’m looking forward to the rest of this series.

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