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	<title>Comments on: What Derrida Adds to De Saussure:  A Temporal Emphasis</title>
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		<title>By: Leonardo</title>
		<link>http://percaritatem.com/2009/08/03/what-derrida-adds-to-de-saussure-a-temporal-emphasis/comment-page-1/#comment-5617</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice approach!</description>
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		<title>By: Cynthia R. Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia R. Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,

I wasn’t sure from the way you put the first comment whether you were being snarky or whether you actually wanted to dialogue about Derrida.  Your second comment is much more dialogue-friendly : )  First, I’m no Derrida specialist, but I do find this particular essay interesting.  I don’t think that Derrida would subscribe to “closure under entailment.”  Why?  Because differance always involves *deferment* (temporal aspect) and difference (spatial aspect).  That is, I never fully know anything much less all things. 
Linguistically speaking, each sign that occurs in language refers to something preceding it and anticipates something that lies in the future.  Therefore, the present signification of a sign is constituted at the intersection of its past and future.   In short, the present is always dependent on a movement to the past, and similarly, the present requires a kind of anticipatory movement to the future.  Derrida “instantiates” his view in the very form of his lecture, which is why the lecture has five different beginnings.  You can’t understand the opening claim upon first reading.  Rather, you have to understand what comes later by going back to the beginning (which makes the text a difficult read).  I get the feeling that there is no “closure” at all for Derrida, the postponement continues with no endpoint in view.  

Best,
Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p>I wasn’t sure from the way you put the first comment whether you were being snarky or whether you actually wanted to dialogue about Derrida.  Your second comment is much more dialogue-friendly : )  First, I’m no Derrida specialist, but I do find this particular essay interesting.  I don’t think that Derrida would subscribe to “closure under entailment.”  Why?  Because differance always involves *deferment* (temporal aspect) and difference (spatial aspect).  That is, I never fully know anything much less all things.<br />
Linguistically speaking, each sign that occurs in language refers to something preceding it and anticipates something that lies in the future.  Therefore, the present signification of a sign is constituted at the intersection of its past and future.   In short, the present is always dependent on a movement to the past, and similarly, the present requires a kind of anticipatory movement to the future.  Derrida “instantiates” his view in the very form of his lecture, which is why the lecture has five different beginnings.  You can’t understand the opening claim upon first reading.  Rather, you have to understand what comes later by going back to the beginning (which makes the text a difficult read).  I get the feeling that there is no “closure” at all for Derrida, the postponement continues with no endpoint in view.  </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put another way, I wonder whether Derrida subscribes to what epistemologists call &#039;closure under entailment&#039;. For example, suppose you know x, but x entails y; therefore, you also know y. And, whatever else x entails (or presupposes) you also know. But this seems wrong. Surely I can have a belief about something, but be entirely ignorant of some things that this belief requires or entails? &#039;Closure under entailment&#039; takes away a genuine investigations--a real possibility for learning something new. But if I must know /hallway/, /house/, etc. in order to know what a door is, what limits might there be? Do I have to know everything there is to know, in order to know what a door is? I&#039;m sure Derrida as a good response-- I&#039;m just asking out of genuine ignorance of Derrida&#039;s view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put another way, I wonder whether Derrida subscribes to what epistemologists call &#8216;closure under entailment&#8217;. For example, suppose you know x, but x entails y; therefore, you also know y. And, whatever else x entails (or presupposes) you also know. But this seems wrong. Surely I can have a belief about something, but be entirely ignorant of some things that this belief requires or entails? &#8216;Closure under entailment&#8217; takes away a genuine investigations&#8211;a real possibility for learning something new. But if I must know /hallway/, /house/, etc. in order to know what a door is, what limits might there be? Do I have to know everything there is to know, in order to know what a door is? I&#8217;m sure Derrida as a good response&#8211; I&#8217;m just asking out of genuine ignorance of Derrida&#8217;s view.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia R. Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia R. Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, 

Doesn&#039;t Hume say something similar in his _Enquiry_?  When I think of e.g.,an apartment, I don&#039;t think of it in some kind of &quot;vacuum&quot; so to speak (completely isolated from all other ideas).  It seems to me that he&#039;s simply presenting a version of meaning holism in a postmodern vein.

Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t Hume say something similar in his _Enquiry_?  When I think of e.g.,an apartment, I don&#8217;t think of it in some kind of &#8220;vacuum&#8221; so to speak (completely isolated from all other ideas).  It seems to me that he&#8217;s simply presenting a version of meaning holism in a postmodern vein.</p>
<p>Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I have the concept /door/, must I also have the concept /wall/ or /hallway/? Does Derrida really suppose I must have particular other concepts in order to have the concept /door/? This seems a bit arbitrary to me to say that I must have concepts a, b, and c, if I am to have concept d. What I if just had concept a, or perhaps only c?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I have the concept /door/, must I also have the concept /wall/ or /hallway/? Does Derrida really suppose I must have particular other concepts in order to have the concept /door/? This seems a bit arbitrary to me to say that I must have concepts a, b, and c, if I am to have concept d. What I if just had concept a, or perhaps only c?</p>
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