Comments on: Rowan Williams on the Complexities of the Church’s History and Identity http://percaritatem.com/2010/01/11/rowan-williams-on-the-complexities-of-the-church%e2%80%99s-history-and-identity/ Non intratur in veritatem nisi per caritatem. St. Augustine Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:47:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Collins Aki http://percaritatem.com/2010/01/11/rowan-williams-on-the-complexities-of-the-church%e2%80%99s-history-and-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-5590 Collins Aki Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:57:17 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1811#comment-5590 Hello! I got word of this blog via my good friend and brother Matt Boulter (religiocity.org). I like the issues that you blog about. I agree that understanding the current state of the church for a better grasp of the future state of the church, can not be done without an understanding of the church's past. But I wonder how radical is that, with Williams "emphasiz[ing] throughout that the Church is founded and sustained by divine action"? To me, that has always been the emphasized part of the church's narrative especially when dealing with her shortcomings (and at times a means for justification, rather than a silver lining). I am a little more interested in reading about, as you noted, "the interplay between historical contingencies and the ways in which history 'makes' us on the one hand, and the reality of transcultural (yet contextually-applied) truths on the other". I think the real story of the Church can be found in the story of its members and those "11th hour" parts of the Body found in the highways and by-ways of God's redemptive plan. I would like to see him emphasize that. At any rate, I have sampled a few of William's books from my buddy Matt's library, and he appears to be a very engaging writer. Hello! I got word of this blog via my good friend and brother Matt Boulter (religiocity.org). I like the issues that you blog about. I agree that understanding the current state of the church for a better grasp of the future state of the church, can not be done without an understanding of the church’s past. But I wonder how radical is that, with Williams “emphasiz[ing] throughout that the Church is founded and sustained by divine action”? To me, that has always been the emphasized part of the church’s narrative especially when dealing with her shortcomings (and at times a means for justification, rather than a silver lining). I am a little more interested in reading about, as you noted, “the interplay between historical contingencies and the ways in which history ‘makes’ us on the one hand, and the reality of transcultural (yet contextually-applied) truths on the other”. I think the real story of the Church can be found in the story of its members and those “11th hour” parts of the Body found in the highways and by-ways of God’s redemptive plan. I would like to see him emphasize that. At any rate, I have sampled a few of William’s books from my buddy Matt’s library, and he appears to be a very engaging writer.

]]> By: Cynthia R. Nielsen http://percaritatem.com/2010/01/11/rowan-williams-on-the-complexities-of-the-church%e2%80%99s-history-and-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-5579 Cynthia R. Nielsen Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:27:36 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1811#comment-5579 Thanks for the comment, Matt. I also find Williams' work exceedingly encouraging. Thanks for the comment, Matt. I also find Williams’ work exceedingly encouraging.

]]> By: matt boulter http://percaritatem.com/2010/01/11/rowan-williams-on-the-complexities-of-the-church%e2%80%99s-history-and-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-5577 matt boulter Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:10:40 +0000 http://percaritatem.com/?p=1811#comment-5577 Thanks for this, Cynthia. I recently read _Rowan's Rule_ and was similarly encouraged. I will put this on my reading list. I am grateful to have such a wise archbishop. Indeed, he is one of the reasons I became Anglican / Episcopalian! Thanks for this, Cynthia.

I recently read _Rowan’s Rule_ and was similarly encouraged. I will put this on my reading list. I am grateful to have such a wise archbishop. Indeed, he is one of the reasons I became Anglican / Episcopalian!

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